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Mohon maaf newbie yg gaptek ini mau bertanya sama suhu2 BM yg ngerti IT :

Jadi gini.... newbie 3 tahunan lalu beli HDD External merk Toshiba.
HDD Ext ini digunakan utk nampung file2 yg ada di HDD PC + netbook newbie yg kapasitas HDD Internalnya terbatas (maksudnya biar PC + netbook nya biar HDD-nya lega dan gak lemot). Bbrp bulan lalu newbie ganti netbook ber-OS Windows XP tsb dengan MacBook dgn Dual OS : Lion X + Windows7 dan newbie pindah ke kota K

Awal2nya membuka HDD Ext tsb di MacBook lancar2 aja... waktu digunakan di Windows7 lancar, di Lion X kadang2 agak lama ngebacanya... Tapi so far lancar2 aja... Nah minggu lalu waktu newbie dpt undangan dari TTM ke Sby, HDD tsb newbie simpen di dlm lemari dgn kondisi kabel koneksinya newbie elepas. Sengaja newbie gak mau bawa krn takut TTM ini ngerti komputer dan buka2 HDD newbie ini....

Pas balik dr Sby, newbie coba buka HDD Ext di Lion, windows7 bahkan smp coba ke bbrp warnet yg pake PC Windows XP ternyata gak bs kebuka lagi... Di WindowsXP dibaca sbg "Local Disc" dan malah minta diformat

Sampe skrg newbie kehilangan akses atas semua file2 yg ada di dalamnya....
Yang bikin newbie paling sedih adalah... Semua hasil perjuangan newbie bikin video + foto FR waktu ekse selama bertahun2 semuanya ada dalam HDD Ext tersebut dan gakda backup copy-nya Terus jg koleksi lagu2 bahan buat di-mix yg kadang newbie hrs sampe ngeluarin duit buat kumpulinnya... :sad:

Untungnya video ekse di Sby masih tersimpan di dalam gadget yg lain

Oiya satu hal lagi, HDD Ext tsb newbie tgl di dlm lemari di kamar TTM newbie di kota K. TTM yg ini tau kalo di dalam HDD Ext tsb ada video ekse newbie dgn doi. Bukannya menuduh.. Tp kecurigaan ada soalnya sblm newbie tgl ke Sby, HDD tsb masih bs digunakan dan gakda masalah. Cuma newbie yakin seyakin2nya bahwa TTM yg ini gaptek sama sekali soal komputer

Kondisi HDD Ext tersebut adalah :
1. Pernah bbrp kali (cukup sering) kabel koneksinya tercabut saat sedang mengakses file2 di dalamnya... Misalnya sedang memutar file MP3/video tiba2 tertarik smp copot sendiri kabel USB-nya. Sering juga newbie terpaksa memindahkan HDD tsb saat sedang diakses (lg muter)
2. Sudah dicoba mengganti dgn kabel koneksi yg baru tp tetep sama hasilnya
3. HDD Ext selalu berada dalam sarung pouchnya (gak pernah dikeluarin), kebanyakan disimpan dlm tas ransel sbg persiapan kalo mau ekse (krn bnyk film bokep jg di dalamnya hehehe ), pernah bbrp kali disimpan di bawah jok motor biar gak ketauan TTM dan motornya diparkir di bwh sinar matahari
4. Skrg ini waktu dicolokin ke port USB, HDD tetep muter dan lampu indikator juga nyala biru tp gak bs kebaca isinya


Yang jd pertanyaan newbie adalah :

1. Kira2 ini masalahnya kenapa yah? Software nya crash atau hardwarenya yg rusak?
2. Dr kondisi2 ekstreme perlakuan newbie thdp HDD tsb, apakah mgkn menyebabkan hardware jd rusak? Apakah disimpan dlm lemari berhari2 bisa bikin rusak?
3. Kalo misalnya emang ternyata rusak, kira2 solusinya apa yah?
4. Anggaplah somehow isi HDD tsb di-delete atau diformat ulang oleh pihak lain, apakah ada kemungkinan file2 tsb bs didapatkan kembali?
5. Baca2 review di Google katanya Toshiba emang sering bermasalah gak kedetect begini. Next time mau beli HDD Ext, merk apa yg kira2 lebih "bandel"?
6. Kalo mau di-back up isinya ke HDD Ext yg baru apakah masih bisa?


Sekian curhatan dr newbie.. Mudah2an ada BMers yang mengerti dan bs memberikan solusi buat permasalahan newbie ini......

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Nub cuma bisa jawab no 5, setahu nub dan sepanjang pengalaman nub memakai hardisk external, nub pake merk WD tidak pernah ada masalah sama sekali, tapi ada 1 kekurangan, kalo sudah dipakai dalam format Windows tidak bisa dibaca di Mac, begitu pula sebaliknya
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Kalo WD sama Seagate bagus mana suhu Bots?
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coba merk seagate atau wd, saya punya beberapa buah , oke oke saja tidak ada masalah.
Untuk hd external toshiba, coba di scan dengan software untu recovery data di hard disk, di internet ada banyak, di googling aja.
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bro coba bawa kesini deh
www.guruhdd.com
hdd gue pernah jatoh sampe ngga ke detect lagi
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kokoh ganteng coba pakai software RecoverMyFile deh soalnya nubie juga pernah kejadian kayak gini bedanya nubie memory cardnya yang ga ke detect....
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Kalo gue saranin kalo ngga ngerti2 amat jangan di utak atik bro change untuk balikin datanya bisa turun kalo udah di utak atik
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Kalo kagak bisa semuanya,
kudu pake jasa profesional, utk selametin datanya.

Di bawa ke lab n yg pasti DC muahallll buangett...!!
Melebihi harga hdd nya....

Kalo penting, yach apa boleh buat....
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Makasih yah semua masukkannya Bro-Bro sekalian.....

Kayaknya emang solusi terbaik dibawa ke pakarnya aja yah
Maaf newbie utang ijo2 dulu krn hari ini udah kebanyakan ngelempar kolor ijo
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bos....itu di check di computer management...kedetect ndak hardwarenya...atau...kalo di computer management tidak ada...bisa di check di device manager yg di control panel...oh iya...kalo di control panel namanya system....
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Bawa aja si ke tukang reparasi. Kemungkinan emang umur hardwarenya. Or mungkin bro cabut buru2.

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www.guruhdd.com
hdd gue pernah jatoh sampe ngga ke detect lagi
trus di recover ama mereka semua data balik

Pertanyaannya dalemannya itu ada gbr berbahaya ga?
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Bro asakura, mau tanya nih sebelumnya format HD extern nya apa?
Di windows biasanya itu format NTFS, sedangkat di mac itu Extended journal.

Apakah sebelumnya HDD nya dipartisi jadi 2 format?? Windows dan mac??
Atau hanya pakai satu format?

Klo hanya satu format tentunya suhu asakura pasti pakai format FAT32, sebat jika ntfs di mac hanya bisa read only..

Klo mau cari aman dlu sii untuk back up data, bro basi pergi kedaerah depok margonda SKITAR kampus gunadarma,skitar wilayah univ.pancasila banyak yg bisa recovery data HD

nubie pke transcend HD Mantabss,,
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Kalo mac mau bisa read write ntfs install tuxera aja bro
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CMIIW,

Pertama2, kata ikelite sangat bener... Kalo gak ngerti.. penting banged... Jangan di utak atik... Semakin di utak atik... Kemungkinan nya sangat besar bisa membuat makin parah.

Info dikit....

Hdd External terbagi 2 bagian :
1. Hdd itu sendiri
2. SATA/IDE converter to USB

Bisa jadi yg nomor 2 yang rusak. Tinggal bongkar casing nya, beli converter nya

Nah HDD secara hardware itu sendiri terdiri dari :
1. Piringan magnetic disc beserta motor
2. Mechanical Head
3. controller board dengan firmware

Kalo physical sector error di piringan biasa nya di recovery sebagian.
Kalo head, harus punya clean room dan spare part kanibal dari hdd yg sama persis
Kalo controller/firmware, tergantung merek... Ada yang bisa di kanibal, ada yang tidak... Seagate model tertentu gak bisa di kanibal.

Paling gampang, tempel kuping ke hdd nya dalam kondisi di taruh di meja (kondisi perfect horisontal). Bunyi nya kalo ngak normal... Yah mechanical hardware failure

Isi HDD, secara software terdiri dari:
1. Boot sector/MBR
2. Partition table
3. File system metadata (ntfs dan crc)
4. File itu sendiri

Kalo software level biasa nya gampang di recover pake software juga.

Gue recommend betulin di :

PT HDD Studio Data Recovery Indonesia
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Hddguru kalo gak salah pecahan hdd studio...

Tapi yang gue tau, yang memang punya clean room dan punya alat buat betulin dan ngerti sampe ke low level assembly code firmware, cuma hdd studio.
Dan si ferry punya banyak semua type HDD semua merek buat kanibal.
(gue tau karena pernah liat die borong hdd dari dealer yang sama)

Die juga punya pernyataan "non disclousure agreement" alias rahasia terjamin.

Harga biasa di hitung sesuai size hdd nya. ( kalo gak salah dulu 40gb, 3jt lebih, cek sendiri dech)
Dulu pas gue betulin sama hddstudio, jaminan nya... Gak berhasil gak bayar

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Default Re: Sh*tt!!! HDD External Newbie Gak Terdeteksi

Gw ikutan nyumbang :
Betul kata bro BL diatas :
HDD external ada 2 component yg mungkin rusak :
1. Hard Disknya sendiri
2. External Circuit nya .

Yg lo bisa lakuin , tanpa harus ke clean room karena mahal.
1. Buka external enclosurenya , dan cabut hard disk nya dari enclosurenya .
Ada 2 macam HDD : Sata atau Pata , jadi lo musti test dgn gadget USB ke Sata atau USB ke PATA, terus di test lagi di komputer, masih bisa ke detect gak ?
Nah ini lo bisa pastikan : kalau ini dari hard drive nya sendiri atau masalah External Circuitnya ,

Kalau masih kaga bisa kedetect, baru lo bawa ke clean room. dan siap2 bayar mahal
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Default Re: Sh*tt!!! HDD External Newbie Gak Terdeteksi

Mantap neh, inpo bro BL.

Btw...
Nubie mau sedikit nanya neh...
Kok recovery data, mahal buanget yach ????

mahal dimananya yach ....


btw...
Temen gua terakhir recovery 1,5 jt seh, hdd 1 terra.
Kata temen gua, .... mahal tidaknya, tergantung sikon hdd nya.
Makin susah dibetulin, semakin mahal.

Padahal temen gua anak IT binus dengan IP 3.9 .... tapi tetap aza ngak bisa betulin sendiri utk hdd yg rusak tsb.
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Recovery mahal, karena ruang kedap debu nya mahal bro dan kaga banyak yg bikin usaha beginian. Jadi kaga kompetitif.
Sebenarnya gampang sekali, asal punya equipment clean room, jadi kalau pas buka selongsong container cylinder nya, data nya bisa di amankan, terus tinggal diganti dalamnya yg rusak yg mana, physical head, atau cylinder motor, tapi semua cylinder nya tetap yg sama
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bro, kalo harddisk external. COba buka enclosure nya dulu, pindah ke enclosure lain atau dijjadiin buat internal di PC, liat kedetect atau gak.

Biasa sih kerusakan cuman di enclosure aja, beli dan ganti udah beres.
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alooo....

Just want to share, sy sdh 2 x nemenin temen recovery data hdd, yg pertama untuk NAS 1TB (abis 2 jt-an). Yg ke dua untuk portable hdd 500 gb, habisnya sama 2 jt-an jg. So, selain kapasitas hdd nya total costnya akan sgt tergantung dr kerusakan si hdd itu sendiri. Dan untuk case yg ke 2 bahkan mereka ga berani guarantee data bisa recovered 100% (krn head nya sdh rusak).

One of my friend gave me the advice about backup:

Always backup important data to multiple devices/locations. Storing data in one device IS NOT A BACKUP!

Btw, he works at Buffalo (vendor for nas & storage)
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Iya bawa ke pakarnya saja... Kogan asakura

Kalo hdd merk seagate dan WD itu recommend..
Nubie juga pake itu merk 2... Dan sampe saat ini fine2 saja...

Kondisi sering cabut pasang juga kebelnya
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